1 00:00:04,950 --> 00:00:03,110 hi everybody josh barley here inside 2 00:00:06,389 --> 00:00:04,960 mission control houston i'm joined by my 3 00:00:07,749 --> 00:00:06,399 friend camille elaine how are you doing 4 00:00:08,950 --> 00:00:07,759 camille i'm great thank you you know all 5 00:00:10,070 --> 00:00:08,960 this week we're talking about and 6 00:00:11,190 --> 00:00:10,080 actually all this month more 7 00:00:13,030 --> 00:00:11,200 appropriately we're talking about the 8 00:00:14,549 --> 00:00:13,040 anniversaries of valentina tereshkova 9 00:00:16,470 --> 00:00:14,559 who was the first female in space and 10 00:00:18,310 --> 00:00:16,480 sally ryan it was the first american in 11 00:00:19,429 --> 00:00:18,320 space one was 50 years ago and once 30 12 00:00:20,470 --> 00:00:19,439 years ago 13 00:00:21,990 --> 00:00:20,480 um 14 00:00:23,750 --> 00:00:22,000 who more appropriate to talk about it 15 00:00:24,950 --> 00:00:23,760 than you you know your background is 16 00:00:26,310 --> 00:00:24,960 quite extensive when it comes to 17 00:00:28,390 --> 00:00:26,320 education you've got a bachelor of 18 00:00:30,310 --> 00:00:28,400 science in mechanical engineering from 19 00:00:32,229 --> 00:00:30,320 howard university a master of science in 20 00:00:34,389 --> 00:00:32,239 mechanical engineering from florida a m 21 00:00:35,990 --> 00:00:34,399 university master of science in 22 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:36,000 aerospace engineering from university of 23 00:00:38,790 --> 00:00:37,840 maryland and a doctorate in educational 24 00:00:40,389 --> 00:00:38,800 leadership from the university of 25 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:40,399 houston so you've had some some 26 00:00:43,590 --> 00:00:42,320 schooling in science 27 00:00:45,190 --> 00:00:43,600 but i think what's even cooler she's 28 00:00:46,709 --> 00:00:45,200 actually a private pilot 29 00:00:48,150 --> 00:00:46,719 which is amazing to me but one of you 30 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:48,160 look at these these anniversaries you 31 00:00:51,430 --> 00:00:49,760 know what does it mean to you and what 32 00:00:53,830 --> 00:00:51,440 are kind of your thoughts on it 33 00:00:56,950 --> 00:00:53,840 um i think in the last 30 to 50 years 34 00:00:59,590 --> 00:00:56,960 we've made significant strides and and 35 00:01:02,549 --> 00:00:59,600 um we've come a long way with the 36 00:01:05,350 --> 00:01:02,559 inclusion of women in human spaceflight 37 00:01:08,469 --> 00:01:05,360 um to date i think we've had about 57 38 00:01:09,670 --> 00:01:08,479 women from diverse backgrounds both 39 00:01:12,469 --> 00:01:09,680 cultural 40 00:01:13,350 --> 00:01:12,479 social national different nationalities 41 00:01:14,789 --> 00:01:13,360 who have 42 00:01:17,590 --> 00:01:14,799 flown in space 43 00:01:19,429 --> 00:01:17,600 from american perspective since dr sally 44 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:19,439 ride we've had the first 45 00:01:24,230 --> 00:01:21,200 african-american woman 46 00:01:25,510 --> 00:01:24,240 dr mae jemison in 1992 47 00:01:28,710 --> 00:01:25,520 who flew 48 00:01:31,350 --> 00:01:28,720 our own senate director dr ellen ochoa 49 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:31,360 who's the first hispanic uh woman 50 00:01:36,310 --> 00:01:34,320 american woman to fly in space in 1993 51 00:01:39,510 --> 00:01:36,320 and then the first asian-american woman 52 00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:39,520 and dr kalpana challa who flew in 1997 53 00:01:44,550 --> 00:01:40,880 for the first time we lost her in 54 00:01:49,030 --> 00:01:44,560 colombia but um these women have really 55 00:01:51,910 --> 00:01:49,040 blazed a trail and inspired countless um 56 00:01:54,389 --> 00:01:51,920 women who have come behind them and 57 00:01:57,190 --> 00:01:54,399 willed for generations from a global 58 00:01:59,670 --> 00:01:57,200 perspective we've had a number of women 59 00:02:03,030 --> 00:01:59,680 who have flown in space from japan 60 00:02:05,350 --> 00:02:03,040 canada europe china of course russia 61 00:02:07,749 --> 00:02:05,360 and we've had an iranian-american space 62 00:02:10,309 --> 00:02:07,759 tourist so we've made significant 63 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:10,319 strides um including women in human 64 00:02:14,550 --> 00:02:12,160 space flight you know we try to always 65 00:02:15,990 --> 00:02:14,560 reach out to students and and kids who 66 00:02:17,270 --> 00:02:16,000 are going into science and whenever you 67 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:17,280 take a look back at the school that 68 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:19,280 you've gone through you know what made 69 00:02:22,710 --> 00:02:21,120 you pick the courses that you that you 70 00:02:25,589 --> 00:02:22,720 took and when did you know 71 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:25,599 um i was really good in math and science 72 00:02:30,949 --> 00:02:29,200 in my early years of schooling and um i 73 00:02:31,750 --> 00:02:30,959 had a passion 74 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:31,760 for 75 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:37,760 i also 76 00:02:42,390 --> 00:02:40,000 was very passionate about space from an 77 00:02:44,470 --> 00:02:42,400 early age i grew up in the caribbean a 78 00:02:46,949 --> 00:02:44,480 small island nation of trinidad and 79 00:02:47,990 --> 00:02:46,959 tobago and i remember at the age of six 80 00:02:50,309 --> 00:02:48,000 and seven 81 00:02:53,110 --> 00:02:50,319 sitting on the trunk of my dad's car 82 00:02:55,190 --> 00:02:53,120 many nights and just being awe inspired 83 00:02:58,630 --> 00:02:55,200 by the vastness of space not really 84 00:03:01,350 --> 00:02:58,640 knowing what that was all about um but 85 00:03:03,990 --> 00:03:01,360 being really mechanical and analytical 86 00:03:06,630 --> 00:03:04,000 in my thinking when i decided that i was 87 00:03:08,229 --> 00:03:06,640 going to go to college of course i 88 00:03:09,990 --> 00:03:08,239 decided to study aeronautical 89 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:10,000 engineering because of my passion for 90 00:03:13,910 --> 00:03:11,760 airplanes 91 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:13,920 but then when i migrated to the states 92 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:16,480 as a freshman and i'm dating myself 93 00:03:22,790 --> 00:03:19,120 the challenger accident happened and 94 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:22,800 that just changed my life like in those 95 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:25,760 moments i decided this is what i wanted 96 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:27,840 to do so i switched from aeronautical 97 00:03:32,869 --> 00:03:30,000 engineering to aerospace engineering and 98 00:03:35,589 --> 00:03:32,879 you read my bio so the rest is history 99 00:03:37,830 --> 00:03:35,599 um spent 18-year career designing 100 00:03:40,309 --> 00:03:37,840 rockets and spacecraft systems both the 101 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:40,319 department of defense and nasa so 102 00:03:43,270 --> 00:03:41,760 whenever you talk to boys and girls that 103 00:03:45,830 --> 00:03:43,280 are going into you know if they they 104 00:03:47,270 --> 00:03:45,840 kind of have a hankering for for science 105 00:03:49,030 --> 00:03:47,280 is that really the key it's just for 106 00:03:50,470 --> 00:03:49,040 them to to go with what interests them 107 00:03:51,750 --> 00:03:50,480 what you know what their passion is 108 00:03:53,990 --> 00:03:51,760 rather than trying to say okay you know 109 00:03:56,149 --> 00:03:54,000 the end of my career i want to be here 110 00:03:58,229 --> 00:03:56,159 is it more important to say well here's 111 00:04:01,589 --> 00:03:58,239 what i really like to do and is that the 112 00:04:03,589 --> 00:04:01,599 key yes it is the key i i think you have 113 00:04:06,030 --> 00:04:03,599 to follow the things that you're 114 00:04:08,470 --> 00:04:06,040 passionate about um 115 00:04:11,270 --> 00:04:08,480 specifically for girls though 116 00:04:13,030 --> 00:04:11,280 encouraging them to go into science 117 00:04:14,470 --> 00:04:13,040 requires exposure 118 00:04:17,509 --> 00:04:14,480 right and so 119 00:04:21,110 --> 00:04:17,519 having opportunities as a high schooler 120 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:21,120 to go and work in a lab alongside a 121 00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:23,360 professional scientist or researcher 122 00:04:28,469 --> 00:04:25,680 engineer and getting that exposure and 123 00:04:31,510 --> 00:04:28,479 those opportunities to see what the real 124 00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:31,520 world of science and engineering is like 125 00:04:36,629 --> 00:04:33,840 has been shown to really sustain the 126 00:04:39,270 --> 00:04:36,639 interest of females 127 00:04:40,469 --> 00:04:39,280 continuing their careers in those areas 128 00:04:42,469 --> 00:04:40,479 so you work in the program science 129 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:42,479 office i do you know sort of the uh the 130 00:04:45,510 --> 00:04:43,919 brain trust of all the science we've got 131 00:04:46,710 --> 00:04:45,520 going on on board uh the orbiting 132 00:04:47,749 --> 00:04:46,720 laboratory whenever you take a look at 133 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:47,759 it you know you were talking about all 134 00:04:50,950 --> 00:04:49,120 the different uh you know legendary 135 00:04:52,070 --> 00:04:50,960 females that we've had one of them just 136 00:04:53,909 --> 00:04:52,080 walked back in the room anna fisher's 137 00:04:55,110 --> 00:04:53,919 over there's our capcom today 138 00:04:56,790 --> 00:04:55,120 she's part of the original group of 139 00:04:58,150 --> 00:04:56,800 astronauts but we've had 140 00:04:59,909 --> 00:04:58,160 dozens of astronauts that have flown up 141 00:05:02,230 --> 00:04:59,919 to the space station females and males 142 00:05:03,590 --> 00:05:02,240 obviously uh peggy whitson was a 143 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:03,600 commander of the space station back on 144 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:04,960 expedition 145 00:05:06,870 --> 00:05:05,840 yeah 146 00:05:08,870 --> 00:05:06,880 whenever you take a look at the space 147 00:05:10,550 --> 00:05:08,880 station itself and a lot of these pis 148 00:05:13,029 --> 00:05:10,560 and principal investigators are are 149 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:13,039 females and two very diverse 150 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:14,320 you know when we look at the experiments 151 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:16,320 what what do you think is probably the 152 00:05:19,350 --> 00:05:18,000 most promising thing that that the space 153 00:05:21,430 --> 00:05:19,360 station offers 154 00:05:22,469 --> 00:05:21,440 uh for scientists and researchers and 155 00:05:24,230 --> 00:05:22,479 all the things that are going on what 156 00:05:26,390 --> 00:05:24,240 they're working on i think it's the 157 00:05:28,710 --> 00:05:26,400 amazing discoveries and breakthroughs 158 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:28,720 that we have had and continue to have on 159 00:05:32,710 --> 00:05:30,080 the space station 160 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:32,720 you know all the biological chemical and 161 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:34,720 physical processes 162 00:05:39,670 --> 00:05:36,960 that 163 00:05:41,830 --> 00:05:39,680 a function of our terrestrial in 164 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:41,840 environment is a function of the 165 00:05:47,189 --> 00:05:44,560 gravitational force right our ecosystem 166 00:05:49,990 --> 00:05:47,199 functions because of that gravitational 167 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:50,000 force and so when you take that variable 168 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:53,520 out of the equation then amazing things 169 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:56,240 happen to those same processes both in 170 00:06:00,870 --> 00:05:59,120 biology chemistry and physics and so the 171 00:06:03,670 --> 00:06:00,880 space station really serves as a 172 00:06:06,790 --> 00:06:03,680 platform for us to do the investigations 173 00:06:09,029 --> 00:06:06,800 in those areas and and see what those 174 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:09,039 changes are and and have those 175 00:06:13,909 --> 00:06:11,280 discoveries and breakthroughs that you 176 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:13,919 know we didn't know um really could 177 00:06:19,909 --> 00:06:16,720 happen or exist and a perfect perfect 178 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:19,919 example of that is microbial virulence 179 00:06:25,510 --> 00:06:21,600 you know when we flew the salmonella 180 00:06:27,590 --> 00:06:25,520 bacteria and as a result of 181 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:27,600 the microgravity environment it became 182 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:29,520 more virulent or the disease-causing 183 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:31,440 potency increased 184 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:32,880 and so 185 00:06:37,270 --> 00:06:35,039 researchers also were able to identify 186 00:06:40,309 --> 00:06:37,280 the genetic pathway that cross caused 187 00:06:42,790 --> 00:06:40,319 that virulence and so they as a result 188 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:42,800 potentially could develop vaccines 189 00:06:48,550 --> 00:06:45,600 for those bacteria-causing diseases that 190 00:06:49,589 --> 00:06:48,560 will have an impact on our life here on 191 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:49,599 earth 192 00:06:53,670 --> 00:06:51,520 another one is 193 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:53,680 after 40 or 50 years of human 194 00:07:00,230 --> 00:06:56,880 spaceflight we recently discovered um 195 00:07:02,950 --> 00:07:00,240 the vision degradation of astronaut 196 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:02,960 astronauts and so just recently we 197 00:07:08,950 --> 00:07:05,360 started that investigation called ocular 198 00:07:11,110 --> 00:07:08,960 health examining um how that vision 199 00:07:14,230 --> 00:07:11,120 degrades during long duration space 200 00:07:17,029 --> 00:07:14,240 flights and so all these investigations 201 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:17,039 um in addition to the countermeasures 202 00:07:23,029 --> 00:07:20,960 that researchers develop as a result um 203 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:23,039 will have significant impacts and 204 00:07:27,350 --> 00:07:25,680 benefits to improving the quality of our 205 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:27,360 life here on earth so last question is 206 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:29,280 kind of a big one out of all the things 207 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:30,960 we've done on the space station you know 208 00:07:34,469 --> 00:07:32,560 what is your favorite experiment you 209 00:07:36,469 --> 00:07:34,479 have to explain what it is but what is 210 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:36,479 what's your favorite i have two okay 211 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:37,680 i'll give you two 212 00:07:41,510 --> 00:07:39,840 the first is ams the alpha magnetic 213 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:41,520 spectrometer which is the largest 214 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:44,400 particle physics detector in space and 215 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:46,720 up to date it's been up there for almost 216 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:48,800 two years and it's gotten over 16 217 00:07:53,029 --> 00:07:51,360 billion hits of cosmic rays 218 00:07:53,909 --> 00:07:53,039 um and so 219 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:53,919 that 220 00:07:59,110 --> 00:07:56,720 instrument and the in from the data we 221 00:08:01,990 --> 00:07:59,120 get from that instrument could answer 222 00:08:04,629 --> 00:08:02,000 the question of what is the origins of 223 00:08:07,029 --> 00:08:04,639 of our universe and from a physical and 224 00:08:11,029 --> 00:08:07,039 spiritual perspective i think human 225 00:08:13,830 --> 00:08:11,039 beings are curious about that how did we 226 00:08:14,790 --> 00:08:13,840 evolve um and so i think 227 00:08:19,589 --> 00:08:14,800 the 228 00:08:20,710 --> 00:08:19,599 that investigation is really really 229 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:20,720 promising 230 00:08:27,350 --> 00:08:23,840 the second one is um sally ride earth 231 00:08:29,110 --> 00:08:27,360 cam yeah developed by dr sally ride and 232 00:08:31,589 --> 00:08:29,120 it's one of the longest running 233 00:08:33,110 --> 00:08:31,599 investigations it first started back in 234 00:08:35,190 --> 00:08:33,120 expedition 2. 235 00:08:37,829 --> 00:08:35,200 and what she 236 00:08:41,110 --> 00:08:37,839 facilitated was the opportunity for 237 00:08:43,509 --> 00:08:41,120 middle school students to be able to 238 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:43,519 program the earth cam camera that's on 239 00:08:49,190 --> 00:08:46,240 board the space station to take images 240 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:49,200 of various geological features of our 241 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:51,760 earth and use that in their studies of 242 00:08:57,509 --> 00:08:54,560 science of math of pre-engineering 243 00:08:59,670 --> 00:08:57,519 geography social science studies and 244 00:09:02,150 --> 00:08:59,680 history and so it's 245 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:02,160 and it's one of our global education 246 00:09:07,509 --> 00:09:05,040 programs so we've been able to reach 247 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:07,519 countless millions of students around 248 00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:09,680 the world just with that investigation 249 00:09:12,949 --> 00:09:11,519 so that's really one of my favorites 250 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:12,959 well even if sally or i would have never 251 00:09:16,150 --> 00:09:14,959 been the first american female in space 252 00:09:20,470 --> 00:09:16,160 that is 253 00:09:22,070 --> 00:09:20,480 students and they touch it you know all 254 00:09:23,590 --> 00:09:22,080 the time absolutely i think that's 255 00:09:24,949 --> 00:09:23,600 probably one of my favorite ones too so 256 00:09:26,710 --> 00:09:24,959 thanks for joining us can we always 257 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:26,720 always good always good to talk to you 258 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:28,160 camille elaine 259 00:09:31,990 --> 00:09:30,160 if you would like to learn more about uh 260 00:09:33,350 --> 00:09:32,000 the office that camille works in which 261 00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:33,360 the program science office and all the 262 00:09:36,150 --> 00:09:34,720 experiments that they help run onboard 263 00:09:38,750 --> 00:09:36,160 the international space station just log 264 00:09:40,310 --> 00:09:38,760 on to the nasa website at 265 00:09:42,389 --> 00:09:40,320 www.nasa.gov 266 00:09:43,509 --> 00:09:42,399 station take a look at the left hand 267 00:09:44,949 --> 00:09:43,519 side of the page under research and 268 00:09:46,230 --> 00:09:44,959 technology and you can take a look at 269 00:09:48,630 --> 00:09:46,240 all the different experiments that the